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		<title>Comment on Christian Children&#8217;s Fund Name Change is a Bad Choice by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.faithbasedmarketing.com/v2/2009/05/11/94/comment-page-1/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, have you noticed?  It&#039;s been two whole months since you posted your comment and yet no one has deleted it.  If you were wrong about that, then which of your other assumptions may also be misplaced?

A few observations related to your comment.  Since all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, it is impossible to be associated any people--even yourself--without being associated with a sinner. So, associating with a new group of people provides no protection from scandal. 

The question isn&#039;t whether you can avoid being associated with sinners.  You can&#039;t. The question is: With which group of sinners would you rather associate?  

Do you prefer those who acknowledge their sin, repent from it, and receive forgiveness from a merciful God through Christ Jesus?  Or, do you prefer those who won&#039;t event acknowledge their sin?  

Do you prefer those who strive toward holiness and fail, or those who strive for evil and succeed?

By the way, did you know that when Jerry Falwell was in college, he sought and received permission from college administrators to use an empty classroom for four hours each day just to pray?  If that qualifies as being a &quot;joke,&quot; then may God make jokes of us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, have you noticed?  It&#8217;s been two whole months since you posted your comment and yet no one has deleted it.  If you were wrong about that, then which of your other assumptions may also be misplaced?</p>
<p>A few observations related to your comment.  Since all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, it is impossible to be associated any people&#8211;even yourself&#8211;without being associated with a sinner. So, associating with a new group of people provides no protection from scandal. </p>
<p>The question isn&#8217;t whether you can avoid being associated with sinners.  You can&#8217;t. The question is: With which group of sinners would you rather associate?  </p>
<p>Do you prefer those who acknowledge their sin, repent from it, and receive forgiveness from a merciful God through Christ Jesus?  Or, do you prefer those who won&#8217;t event acknowledge their sin?  </p>
<p>Do you prefer those who strive toward holiness and fail, or those who strive for evil and succeed?</p>
<p>By the way, did you know that when Jerry Falwell was in college, he sought and received permission from college administrators to use an empty classroom for four hours each day just to pray?  If that qualifies as being a &#8220;joke,&#8221; then may God make jokes of us all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Children&#8217;s Fund Name Change is a Bad Choice by Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting opinion, Bret and that&#039;s exactly what that is, an opinion.  It truly is tough being a person of faith in this country in today&#039;s world.  As Christians, if we make one wrong step it&#039;s a monumental infraction and the media spins it like we aren&#039;t sinners by nature.  How ridiculous is that?  On the other hand, I can paint my face &amp; be publicly drunk at a football game, be a media mogul and have numerous affairs or get paid an exhorbitant compensation pkg and no one deems these as morally or ethically offensive?  I don&#039;t see the word Christian as offensive at all.  Perhaps we should be praying for the strength to be proud of our values and beliefs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting opinion, Bret and that&#8217;s exactly what that is, an opinion.  It truly is tough being a person of faith in this country in today&#8217;s world.  As Christians, if we make one wrong step it&#8217;s a monumental infraction and the media spins it like we aren&#8217;t sinners by nature.  How ridiculous is that?  On the other hand, I can paint my face &amp; be publicly drunk at a football game, be a media mogul and have numerous affairs or get paid an exhorbitant compensation pkg and no one deems these as morally or ethically offensive?  I don&#8217;t see the word Christian as offensive at all.  Perhaps we should be praying for the strength to be proud of our values and beliefs?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Children&#8217;s Fund Name Change is a Bad Choice by bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally believe they changed the name because they do not want to be tied into the scandals within the Christian faith which have been in the media eye over the past years (which probably made the catholics feel a little better about their past situations).  Let&#039;s face it, (and I am a Christian by faith, not by church) religion has taken advantage of the system for many years, Roger Mahoney (the devil in disguise) was a great example of that, paying off molested children to sweep the real problem under the rug, Jerry Falwell (he&#039;s a joke), Oral Roberts and his 900 foot tall savior.  Christians, among other religions, should be more true to their faith and themselves as well, and not look for manipulative or deceiving ways to get ahead in life.  That last line was for all the Deacons, Pastors and Preachers who drive Jaguars and such.  God is good, but I&#039;m a realist, and do not need to be attached to a church to have faith in the lord.  I&#039;m sure this will get deleted by the brainwashing bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally believe they changed the name because they do not want to be tied into the scandals within the Christian faith which have been in the media eye over the past years (which probably made the catholics feel a little better about their past situations).  Let&#8217;s face it, (and I am a Christian by faith, not by church) religion has taken advantage of the system for many years, Roger Mahoney (the devil in disguise) was a great example of that, paying off molested children to sweep the real problem under the rug, Jerry Falwell (he&#8217;s a joke), Oral Roberts and his 900 foot tall savior.  Christians, among other religions, should be more true to their faith and themselves as well, and not look for manipulative or deceiving ways to get ahead in life.  That last line was for all the Deacons, Pastors and Preachers who drive Jaguars and such.  God is good, but I&#8217;m a realist, and do not need to be attached to a church to have faith in the lord.  I&#8217;m sure this will get deleted by the brainwashing bunch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should ministry and marketing mix? by Jack&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What is Marketing Anyway?</title>
		<link>http://www.faithbasedmarketing.com/v2/2009/03/30/should-ministry-and-marketing-mix/comment-page-1/#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What is Marketing Anyway?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Greg Stielstra, one of the authors of, &#8216;Faith Based Marketing&#8221;  in his article, &#8216;Should Ministry and Marketing Mix&#8217; the marketing concept of Mercantilism views marketing from the perspective of trading limited [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to Greg Stielstra, one of the authors of, &#8216;Faith Based Marketing&#8221;  in his article, &#8216;Should Ministry and Marketing Mix&#8217; the marketing concept of Mercantilism views marketing from the perspective of trading limited [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to: Faith-Based Marketing by Frank Chimento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Chimento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen, 

Great job putting out this book. I ordered it today. I love what you&#039;re doing and it&#039;s long overdue. Since 1993 I&#039;ve worked in &quot;Christian business&quot; and created a little known magazine called 7ball back in 1995 while working with Thomas Nelson. I was amazed at how &quot;easy&quot; it was to completely dominate the landscape in a short period of time, not because of anything brilliant I was creating or doing, but in large part because of the &quot;void&quot; in the marketplace and the absolute ignorance the secular companies displayed toward the Christian consumer. I remember distinctly a conversation I had with the ad agency Chiat-Day when approaching them about having Nike as an advertiser. I could go on for days and you already know the details of what that conversation was like. Most importantly, I see your vision working in two distinct ways. 

For the past 10 years I have been teaching/training/consulting massive organizations regarding persuasion, influence and interpersonal skills. I have studied under the best, most recognizable leaders in the world regarding these &quot;new&quot; cognitive sciences. Millions of books like Tipping Point, Awake the Giant Within, etc., have been sold and still none of the &quot;experts&quot; recognize that the Bible and the life of Christ is the foundation for all this &quot;knowledge.&quot; 

That said, this is just a long-winded note to encourage you to continue educating people about how to connect with Believers worldwide. They may not be aware about how that connection will impact their lives for eternity. 

Be amazing,
Frank Chimento</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen, </p>
<p>Great job putting out this book. I ordered it today. I love what you&#8217;re doing and it&#8217;s long overdue. Since 1993 I&#8217;ve worked in &#8220;Christian business&#8221; and created a little known magazine called 7ball back in 1995 while working with Thomas Nelson. I was amazed at how &#8220;easy&#8221; it was to completely dominate the landscape in a short period of time, not because of anything brilliant I was creating or doing, but in large part because of the &#8220;void&#8221; in the marketplace and the absolute ignorance the secular companies displayed toward the Christian consumer. I remember distinctly a conversation I had with the ad agency Chiat-Day when approaching them about having Nike as an advertiser. I could go on for days and you already know the details of what that conversation was like. Most importantly, I see your vision working in two distinct ways. </p>
<p>For the past 10 years I have been teaching/training/consulting massive organizations regarding persuasion, influence and interpersonal skills. I have studied under the best, most recognizable leaders in the world regarding these &#8220;new&#8221; cognitive sciences. Millions of books like Tipping Point, Awake the Giant Within, etc., have been sold and still none of the &#8220;experts&#8221; recognize that the Bible and the life of Christ is the foundation for all this &#8220;knowledge.&#8221; </p>
<p>That said, this is just a long-winded note to encourage you to continue educating people about how to connect with Believers worldwide. They may not be aware about how that connection will impact their lives for eternity. </p>
<p>Be amazing,<br />
Frank Chimento</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to: Faith-Based Marketing by Steven Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www.faithbasedmarketing.com/v2/2009/06/02/how-to-faith-based-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Steven Mitchell and I am a new Christian publisher. I have put together a great product (Christian book for teens) that is getting incredible testimonies (we added a testimony page to the web site) but we are not properly marketing the book. I read your book and it was awesome, it has given me alot of ideas not to mention all the resources. Thanks for such a great book. Are you guys ever in the DC area for seminars? Thanks Again, God Bless   Steven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Steven Mitchell and I am a new Christian publisher. I have put together a great product (Christian book for teens) that is getting incredible testimonies (we added a testimony page to the web site) but we are not properly marketing the book. I read your book and it was awesome, it has given me alot of ideas not to mention all the resources. Thanks for such a great book. Are you guys ever in the DC area for seminars? Thanks Again, God Bless   Steven</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Children&#8217;s Fund Name Change is a Bad Choice by Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it is true that there may be market repercussions of this decision, it would seem that it is market-driven to begin with, as there were elements of CCF that either just plain ignored a faith element, or were anti-thetical to it.  

To be clear, this was probably a solid branding move on their part so as to remove any confusion to their organization for a faith when they wanted to incorporate no element of it in their work.  If they claimed to be &quot;Christian&quot;, then went against the core beliefs many have, wouldn&#039;t this market then give an even greater backlash?  I&#039;m sure of it - and experiencing a taste of it probably drove this decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is true that there may be market repercussions of this decision, it would seem that it is market-driven to begin with, as there were elements of CCF that either just plain ignored a faith element, or were anti-thetical to it.  </p>
<p>To be clear, this was probably a solid branding move on their part so as to remove any confusion to their organization for a faith when they wanted to incorporate no element of it in their work.  If they claimed to be &#8220;Christian&#8221;, then went against the core beliefs many have, wouldn&#8217;t this market then give an even greater backlash?  I&#8217;m sure of it &#8211; and experiencing a taste of it probably drove this decision.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Children&#8217;s Fund Name Change is a Bad Choice by greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

I think many Christians will interpret dropping the word &quot;Christian&quot; from the CCF name as a conscious attempt to distance themselves from Christanity which will cause many believers to give their money to child relief organizations that are not ashamed by the association with faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I think many Christians will interpret dropping the word &#8220;Christian&#8221; from the CCF name as a conscious attempt to distance themselves from Christanity which will cause many believers to give their money to child relief organizations that are not ashamed by the association with faith.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Children&#8217;s Fund Name Change is a Bad Choice by Jim Seybert</title>
		<link>http://www.faithbasedmarketing.com/v2/2009/05/11/94/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Seybert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious why they adopted the name Christian when they changed from China Children&#039;s Fund years ago. I&#039;ve never thought of CCF as having a spiritual focus to their work, although they do great things for children. Neither WorldVision or Compassion International have Christian in their name and they do quite well in the Christian fund-raising arena. 

Do you see this as anti-Christian, or are they trying to align themselves with the larger ChildFund global picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious why they adopted the name Christian when they changed from China Children&#8217;s Fund years ago. I&#8217;ve never thought of CCF as having a spiritual focus to their work, although they do great things for children. Neither WorldVision or Compassion International have Christian in their name and they do quite well in the Christian fund-raising arena. </p>
<p>Do you see this as anti-Christian, or are they trying to align themselves with the larger ChildFund global picture?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should ministry and marketing mix? by Rick Hubbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Hubbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What’s more, whether the parties repeat the exchange in the future depends on whether they got the benefit they were expecting.&quot;

So true. All the one time sale sham artists, online especially, are dwindling as the &#039;no real added value&#039; is catching up with a whole bunch of them.

The style of your site and message is excellent. I will surely follow what you guys are doing - and yes @joelcomm has a massive following and is how I found you. :)
Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What’s more, whether the parties repeat the exchange in the future depends on whether they got the benefit they were expecting.&#8221;</p>
<p>So true. All the one time sale sham artists, online especially, are dwindling as the &#8216;no real added value&#8217; is catching up with a whole bunch of them.</p>
<p>The style of your site and message is excellent. I will surely follow what you guys are doing &#8211; and yes @joelcomm has a massive following and is how I found you. <img src='http://www.faithbasedmarketing.com/v2/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Rick</p>
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